Recording Profiles; Default?

Digard

I wrote my own recording profile, so far okay. However, despite of this additional profile, I don't seem to be able to delete the "(Default Profile)".
What is worse: I tried everything I could think of to get it in the first place at starting recordings. I moved it up in Settings, Save-d, and still it shows as default at initiating recordings, and I always have to select my own profile from the drop down.
How can I change my own profile to be the default profile at recordings, please?

davep

Clone the default profile to a new one called "Tvheadend default", then make your changes to the original default and use that.

Digard

davep
That's exactly what I did. I can use it, I can select it. Though I haven't found a method to assign this new profile to a user. Whichever user, the one shown in the details is always the (default DVR profile), despite of me assigning the new profile in the user settings.

DeltaMikeCharlie

@Digard - It works for me.

I created a new DVR profile.

I also created a new user that used that new DVR profile by default.

When I logged on as that user and created a recording from the EPG, the new DVR profile was automatically selected.

You may need to change the 'View Level' to see this field.

My new profile was a clone of the TVH default that recorded to a different directory. I can see from the log file that the recording went to that new directory and not the default directory, so I know that the new DVR profile was actually used.

I also created a manual recording and did not select a DVR profile during the creation process. Nonetheless, once the recording was created, it showed the new profile.

Digard

DeltaMikeCharlie
Thanks, done this, been there. It does use the details of the selected profile. All fine here.
What does NOT work is one small item: When I search for e.g the title that I want to record in Electronic Program Guide, and I see the broadcast, click on the left-most icon under Details, a large window pops up, shows the details, and allows me to "Record" at the bottom line. There, the profile proposed is and remains "(default DVR profile)". I have checked, and it actually uses the default DVR profile at a recording there. If I use another one, it perfectly okay uses that.
I simply don't understand, why I'd have to select my newly created profile each and every time when I initiate a recording. To my understanding, when I log on as user XYZ, the profile assigned to user XYZ as you showed further up, and what I already did, the default recording profile ought to be the one explicitly assigned to user XYZ.

DeltaMikeCharlie

Digard I have checked, and it actually uses the default DVR profile at a recording there.

This is contrary to my findings on my test system today. Can you please confirm your version number and installation method?

Digard

DeltaMikeCharlie
We DO have different software. Please, check your screenshot in the other thread of timing conflicts. The priorities in that screenshot show some numbers. like 3/5, while here, the priorities are plain English terms, like 'default', 'low', etc.
So it is obvious, that the source code of your recording library is different from mine. And so the readout of profiles can easily be different as well.

Digard

Tried once again, creating a new user, assigning an existing profile, save, checked the profile, the profile is visible, logged out, logged in as the new user, still (default DVR profile). I can select the assigned profile, of course.
HTS Tvheadend 4.3.0_pre+202406272110-0_{built202406272348}gitd2e41b553_ubuntu22.04.1
marmaley

What is it that I'm still doing wrongly, or missing?

Omse

Hi We follow this method but I have the same problem when adding a new recording profile but tvheadend always records in profile mode by default

Digard

Omse
Thanks. At least, I'm happy to not make any major mistake here.
And thanks to DeltaMikeCharlie for his as always helpful instructions; though in this case I had been able to do without.

Omse

Hi What I don't understand is that before it worked very well (TVheadend 4.3 version) Now impossible to link a user with a profile It works with programming recording but instant recording from Kodi is impossible

DeltaMikeCharlie

Digard The priorities in that screenshot show some numbers. like 3/5,

Are you referring to this thread?

https://tvheadend.org/d/8730-mux-scan-fails-because-needed-35-fec-not-available

The 3/5 refers to the FEC parameter for tuning muxes.

Digard while here, the priorities are plain English terms, like 'default', 'low', etc.

Like in this thread.

https://tvheadend.org/d/8729-overlapping-recordings

Flole

Digard We DO have different software.

Probably, you are using a modified version and I would assume @DeltaMikeCharlie is running an unmodified version.

Digard

DeltaMikeCharlie Okay, sorry, I rest my case!
Unfortunately, there seems to be no way to simply delete my post.? Would be good, to avoid cluttering this forum.

DaveH

Digard Unfortunately, there seems to be no way to simply delete my post.? Would be good, to avoid cluttering this forum.

Forums often prevent people from removing or changing their posts (after a short time to edit mistakes) because it is difficult to follow a thread with responses to missing posts. Clutter is an unfortunate byproduct.

Digard

Now I have an answer. Actually, it made me grin, because I consider it counter-intuitive:
At clicking "Record", it does propose as recording profile 'default profile'. Though that is not the 'default profile' as can be found in 'Profiles', but the default profile that was defined and allocated on a user-based setting.

In case you don't follow:
In the profiles, there is a non-erasable 'default profile'. Checks.
You create new profile XYZ, and allocate it to that user. Checks.
User logs in, selects a broadcast, and finds 'default profile' as default, with profile XYZ only accessible in the pull down menu. The user is tempted to think, he had to pull down that profile XYZ for his recording. Does not check.
-> Because the 'default profile' shown as the default in the recording window isn't the 'default profile' from 'Profiles', but profile XYZ. Because it had been allocated earlier as default profile to the user.
Therefore it doesn't matter, if the user leaves the 'default profile' as recording profile, or pulls down the recording profiles to access and select XYZ; the recording is ALWAYS done with profile XYZ!

(If someone asked me for "What is a confusing piece of software?", I'd point to this one.)

Technically, my question is solved. However, I still think that a small change of the code is indicated in order to help users across this unnecessary step, and offering two 'different' profiles to select from.