Scanner unable to find Freesat Bouquets?

John Bergqvist

When Scanning for DVB-S muxes (with Network Discovery on), I can find all the channels OK, as well as the BSkyB Bouquets, but not the Freesat ones. Is there a particular multiplex that i'm missing or that Network Discovery isn't picking up?

mpmc

You should have the home transponders 11778 V 27500, 11425 H 27500, 11425 is the one you want. Just play it in vlc for 60 seconds and it should pull the bouquets in.

John Bergqvist

Well they're both in my muxes, and i've streamed both now and its playing back fine on VLC, but they're not adding any new bouquets. I have 230 bouquets in total (including the pre-installed fastscan ones, the rest being BSkyB bouquets it picked up during scanning).

John Bergqvist

I have had the 'Over the air EPG' option UNticked for my Capture card, however surely if it was that causing the problem, I wouldn't have recieved the BSkyB Bouquets then?

The weird thing is it was picking the Freesat Bouquets up fine last night. All i've done since is deleted the Network (plus Muxes etc.) and re-created them all today.

Michael Caddy

I'm getting the same. I used TSReader and it appears that the Freesat Home transponder doesn't seem to have any Bouquet Allocation Tables.

Did you get any where with getting yours back?

Fet Fer

I know it is a while since this was posted but in case anyone searches for this.
Having this issue on a new 4.2 system, I persevered and found them on the BBC Olympics channel on Mux 11425H.

Simon Russell

Sorry to resurrect again, but is this still the case (this is the most recent post I could find)? After clearing out and starting again, I'm playing the 11425H mux in VLC, but no bouquets are displaying. However, I don't have a BBC Olympics service either (used to have, I think). All the usual BSkyBs are listed. I have two "Freesat info" Services on 11425H and 11428H. Playing either doesn't seem to do anything.

A little new to this and trying to get the Freesat bouquets to list...

mpmc

Simon Russell wrote:
> Sorry to resurrect again, but is this still the case (this is the most recent post I could find)? After clearing out and starting again, I'm playing the 11425H mux in VLC, but no bouquets are displaying. However, I don't have a BBC Olympics service either (used to have, I think). All the usual BSkyBs are listed. I have two "Freesat info" Services on 11425H and 11428H. Playing either doesn't seem to do anything.
>

> A little new to this and trying to get the Freesat bouquets to list...

Make sure you've set the position for the network AND the freesat EPG grabber is enabled & try again.

Simon Russell

Thank you for this - I think it came down to the EPG settings, that I originally knew nothing about as I was in Basic view.

I've now got generic bouquets, but no regional ones. I suspect it's related to this: https://tvheadend.org/issues/4543

Channels came through without numbers, but that's OK for now.

Thanks for your time. Ultimately I want to configure it to behave like a £20 freesat box and sort of just work. Getting there...
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Simon Russell

After a docker update today, a rescan and playing the 11425H and 11428H muxes, all bouquets appeared. All channels appear to be present with correct numbers (except for the numbering on Radio London). Several duplicates of ITV and Channel 4 just needed turning off, together with a couple of test/odd channels. Thanks for the help on this forum.

Paul Ryan

Looks like this information has again changed, if i wish to setup freesat for the South East i assume the following is the correct bouquet ?

https://www.satellite-calculations.com/DVB/28.2E/freesat.php?272/25

Can someone odentofy the correct frequency to get EPG, is it the freesat info channel on 999, freq 11426 H ??

Fet Fer

Hi Paul

To get the freesat Bouquets you have to have the Over-the-air: UK: Freesat EPG Grabber module enabled. If you want to use a different EPG for yuour main channels (e.g. XML) then set the Priority of UK: Freesat one down to 1 and set your other grabber higher, I have mine set at 5.

I think you then need to play a service such as BBC One (or maybe the Freesat Test, I forget), that triggers the over the air epg. If you monitor the log you should see the dvb-freesat://dvbs ... Bouuquets being found.
If you only get the default ones e.g. England HD: Default, then enable one of those, when that is scanned you should then see the local ones appearing e.g. England HD: S East/London

You may see more than one for a region, try each in turn till you see services mapped to channels.

Have fun.

Mark

cy clic

Fet Fer wrote:
> Hi Paul
>
> To get the freesat Bouquets you have to have the Over-the-air: UK: Freesat EPG Grabber module enabled. If you want to use a different EPG for yuour main channels (e.g. XML) then set the Priority of UK: Freesat one down to 1 and set your other grabber higher, I have mine set at 5.
>
> I think you then need to play a service such as BBC One (or maybe the Freesat Test, I forget), that triggers the over the air epg. If you monitor the log you should see the dvb-freesat://dvbs ... Bouuquets being found.
> If you only get the default ones e.g. England HD: Default, then enable one of those, when that is scanned you should then see the local ones appearing e.g. England HD: S East/London
> You may see more than one for a region, try each in turn till you see services mapped to channels.
>
> Have fun.
>

> Mark

Mark,
For a number of weeks, since being upgraded
I have been unable to get tvheadend to decode any OTA freesat bouquets.
Both stable or unstable builds, both armhf and arm64.
Has the code been "changed"?
Or has the OTA format changed in a manner that the code cannot cope with?
Configs tried 16.04, 18.04 and raspian -- pi2b, pi3b, pi3b+ -- all with sat>ips
Have tried all the usual things to wipe config/rebuild from scratch/mux schedule etc

Fet Fer

Hi Paul

I am just a user so do not know if any code has been changed.

I am currently on build 4.2.8-15~gdae846765 (2019-03-01T16:34:27+0000), Ubuntu 18.04.2 LTS on an intel box. All appears to be well, for example the new BBC Scotland channels have appeared in my listings.

My system was built about 1 year ago and kept up to date via apt.tvheadend.org

I have got a Pi 3 somewhere, if I get the opportunity I will dust it off and see if I can get it going.

Mark

Fet Fer

Hi Paul

It looks like there is an issue with both freesat and Sky Bouquets in the latest build (HTS Tvheadend 4.2.8-17~gd64d8c808), I tried my Pi with Ubuntu Server 18, that showed no Bouquets, I created an Ubuntu Server 18 VM and again that does not see any Bouquets being added automatically.

I loaded Libreelec 8.2.5 on the Pi as that has an older TVHeadend build (HTS Tvheadend 4.2.6-7 ~ LibreELEC Tvh-addon v8.2.113) and that works fine. e.g. this from log when first scanning Muxes it picks, up both Sky and Freesat Bouquets;
2019-03-09 13:29:20.642 [ INFO] mpegts: 11307V in DVB-S Network - tuning on SAT>IP DVB-S Tuner #3 (192.168.x.xx)
2019-03-09 13:29:20.642 [ INFO] epggrab: 11307V in DVB-S Network - registering mux for OTA EPG
2019-03-09 13:29:20.715 [ INFO] subscription: 000C: "scan" subscribing to mux "11307V", weight: 5, adapter: "SAT>IP DVB-S Tuner #3 (192.168.x.xx)", network: "DVB-S Network", service: "Raw PID Subscription"
2019-03-09 13:29:26.590 [ INFO] bouquet: new bouquet 'BSkyB Bouquet 4 - DTH Other: Republic of Ireland'
2019-03-09 13:29:26.590 [ INFO] bouquet: new bouquet 'BSkyB Bouquet 4 - DTH Other: Channel Isles'
2019-03-09 13:29:26.590 [ INFO] bouquet: new bouquet 'BSkyB Bouquet 4 - DTH Other: Northern Ireland'
2019-03-09 13:29:26.590 [ INFO] bouquet: new bouquet 'BSkyB Bouquet 4 - DTH Other: Region 32'
2019-03-09 13:29:26.590 [ INFO] bouquet: new bouquet 'BSkyB Bouquet 12 - Commercial O: Republic of Ireland'

......

2019-03-09 13:38:50.299 [ INFO] mpegts: 12441V in DVB-S Network - tuning on SAT>IP DVB-S Tuner #4 (192.168.x.xx)
2019-03-09 13:38:50.299 [ INFO] epggrab: 12441V in DVB-S Network - registering mux for OTA EPG
2019-03-09 13:38:50.309 [ INFO] subscription: 00DE: "scan" subscribing to mux "12441V", weight: 5, adapter: "SAT>IP DVB-S Tuner #4 (192.168.x.xx)", network: "DVB-S Network", service: "Raw PID Subscription"
2019-03-09 13:38:52.720 [ INFO] bouquet: new bouquet 'England G2: -'
2019-03-09 13:38:52.720 [ INFO] bouquet: new bouquet 'England G2: Default'
2019-03-09 13:38:52.720 [ INFO] bouquet: new bouquet 'England G2: Isle of Man'

.....

I had a quick look at the Issues tracker and could only see Bouquet issues relating to importing from external files so this has not yet been reported, will you raise the issue?

Regards

Mark

BH Dan

I am also having the same issue as Mark above, in that I can not get any of the UK Freesat Bouquets.
Installation details:
TVheadend version: 4.2.8-17~gd64d8c808
Installed via apt.tvheadend.org/stable on clean install of Debian 9.6.0
Operating System: Debian GNU/Linux 9 (stretch)
Kernel: Linux 4.9.0-8-amd64

Architecture: x86-64

I am able to directly tune into services (BBC One etc) with VLC, via the play button on the services page.

I do not see anything in the channel column next to the service name column.

The only EPG Grabber modules enabled are:
OTA: UK: Freesat (priority 5)

OTA: OpenTV: Sky UK (priority 1)

If there is any other information that is needed please let me know.

I hope this is of some help, even if it just confirms the problems Mark is seeing above.

Dan

Oli Jeal

I'm currently unable to get any OTA bouquets as well. I'm wondering if it's down to the following commit?
https://github.com/tvheadend/tvheadend/commit/a3c5e751b05018a2cb3764627c3a77b4a5d9e7ce#diff-204c1e5944a0e11491aefdf0e6366bb5

Oli Jeal

Actually I think it's this one.... https://github.com/tvheadend/tvheadend/commit/726e6e65441a9802b6678b05e5f78d82c8cad5f5

I reverted the commit and rebuilt and all my freesat bouquets were instantly found. I've added this info to the open issue.

Fet Fer

Hi Oli

That is great that you have spotted which change has precipitated this incident.

Can you point me to where the issue is tracked so I can keep an eye on the progress.

Many thanks

Mark

Oli Jeal

Sure thing Mark. It's at https://tvheadend.org/issues/5572
I've not had a response yet so I'm not sure when/if it will be picked up.