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Merging channel names across networks?

Added by Chris G 2 months ago

Hi all. I have done some searching and it seems it is not possible to merge channels across networks if you use bouquets?
Is there anything I can do? With channels changing all the time I really don't want to have to handle this manually.

Cheers,
Chris


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RE: Merging channel names across networks? - Added by M A Ben Amara 2 months ago

may fix the channel name instead to let it update all the time, tried that already ?
i use this for my sports channels ... also coming from dvb-c and dvb-s.

RE: Merging channel names across networks? - Added by Chris G 2 months ago

Sorry I am not sure what you mean. My channels have the same name but they do not merge. I am using the bouquet auto map feature.

RE: Merging channel names across networks? - Added by M A Ben Amara 2 months ago

ok, then i might understood wrong.

i thought u have issues with channels rename itself and dont stay as one channel in channel list.

i solved this by untick the auto rename by network, see attachement
3 differrent sources (dvb-c, dvb-s, iptv m3u8)

but seems we talk about different issues ;) so sorry.

RE: Merging channel names across networks? - Added by Em Smith 2 months ago

Currently, no you can't do what you want.

The code assumes all channels mapped on a bouquet are from the same network and have the same options. This allows the services to all be mapped/unmapped together. However, each network can have their own options (map encrypted, channel offset, etc.) and you don't want the "unmap network" button to unmap services from the bouquet that were from a different network, even though no-one would probably toggle the tickboxes anyway. So, there are a few changes that would need to be made to track which services are from where, and ensure this didn't break some other "merge channel" code that exists.

I've looked at it a couple of times but have not come up with a satisfactory idea. Perhaps we can create a global bouquet of all services seen, regardless of network, but we need to consider how it would work in the UI/server.

In the meantime, you can map services from the services tab and this will merge across networks. However, I believe you have to periodically do the mapping to pick up new channels and periodically press the "delete unseen services" button to delete services that no longer exist. This isn't done automatically since some channels in some countries are only broadcast at certain times (say 9--12) and aren't advertised as being available at other times in the day so could accidentally be removed if cleanup were done automatically.

RE: Merging channel names across networks? - Added by Chris G 2 months ago

Thanks for the reply. Ye I read something along those lines too. Seems silly to me, because how many people are going to unmap networks? Even if they did, wouldn't it auto rebuild the channels again after?

I think bouquets are lacking in general. I would love the option to append a suffix to channels in a network before auto mapping and merging (with other networks). This would prevent channels with the same name that are actually different from merging. Example, Discovery Europe vs Discovery UK etc.

I haven't tried it but I assumed what you suggested about manually mapping would work. Really not ideal... My cable provider has been moving channels around on a daily basis for a while now.

TVH is amazing but I think the mapping and bouquet area is seriously lacking in combustibility.

Cheers,
Chris

RE: Merging channel names across networks? - Added by Em Smith 2 months ago

Funny you should mention about modifying channel names since I raised issue #5599 for that earlier today.

You're right, no-one should do the unmapping, or map one bouquet with different options, but we have that feature now so we have to not break expectations when thinking what happens when you merge/unmerge the bouquets. And, I agree, the mapping always seems more complicated than it should, though that seems to be the case with all PVRs I've used. I think it doesn't pass the "appliance" test, i.e., once setup you shouldn't have to touch it again and if a new station it broadcast, it should just work.

RE: Merging channel names across networks? - Added by Chris G 2 months ago

There doesn't appear to be a way to like that but I clicked the watch button. Hopefully that shows interest.

Something else I have noticed is that fuzzy merging will merge HD with non-HD. Now this would be OK because we can set it to prioritise HD in the stream tab, but TVH counts 1080i as SD so it doesn't always play the best available service. I wonder if there is a fix for this?

RE: Merging channel names across networks? - Added by Em Smith 2 months ago

For my channels it detects HD ok. Check config->dvb inputs->services, then click on an HD channel, press "edit" (you may need expert settings). You can force a channel in "type override" to be "HD". In "read only information", my HD channels is detected as "service type 25" (which is 0x19, which means h.264 HD, 11/0x17 is mpeg2 HD), so I don't override it.

However, you're in a different country so it may be different for you. Perhaps someone else will know if it works.

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